Feb 17, 2013 12:00pm PST
reasonable guy. senator, you were on the show in mid-january. we discussed the debt ceiling. you voted against the deal to suspend the debt ceiling with 34 of your fellow senators but it passed anyway. what do you need to see in a bill to avoid the sequester sometime between now and the end of february? >> ali, first of all, as someone who did run a business for 22 years, i'm embarrassed about the way we're operating the country right now and i want to say that up front. sequestration is a bad idea. we ought to be doing our business, appropriating and budgeting, making decisions on cost-benefit analysis. these continual deadlines and cliffs is no way to run a country much less a company. >> when you run a company, you have these things called poison pills. that's what the sequestration was. right? something to awful it would prevent a certain course of action from taking place. why is it that elected officials don't treat that the same way that you would if you were in business? if you had a poison pill in your business to say if you don't do something x will happen or if you do x woul
Feb 17, 2013 2:30am EST
bringing things to the brink with things like the debt ceiling, which i've been very vocal about republicans should not try to have that fight on the debt ceiling. but we have a budgeting problem in washington where, you know, the senate can essentially just walk away from the game of doing a budget in washington. that's never happened before. and now it's happened three years in a row. so the only way this system can budget is to do it on these crisis points. >> we have a budget problem, michael. and president squarely addressed the middle class this week. did you find it effective? how much time does a second-term president really have to implement a domestic agenda? >> i think about six to eight months because what happens is, even lbj in '65 or fdr in '37, after the enormous landslides, the two biggest congresses in the last 100 years, they knew if they waited longer than six to eight months, members of congress would be thinking about the next re-election. that he would always be a lame duck in the first year of his second term. so i think the president is right to act fast.